Sabio

If you are a beginner who just needs something to guide you through basic concepts then it's fine but it's very bad at actually testing your code to see if you did something right. It often glitches out and won't pass you even if your code is identical... Read More to the solution Not a big deal considering most of that is free, but the pro membership just gets you access to extra lessons where there is literally no testing of your code. It just tells you to check things off on your own and if you get stuck it's up to you to find help in the forums. Asking $35 a month for that is a joke

There were 2 primary reasons I decided to enroll at Sabio: 1. 5 star reviews from third party sites. 2. Lowest price I found from all the other competitors Unfortunately, customer reviews in certain industries is a poor indicator. In the case of coding... Read More bootcamps, there is a conflict of interest for graduates to give negative ratings to the coding bootcamps they graduated from, because it in turn, negatively affects their level of branding. Why? Because they graduated from it. Same reason why you would want to say you graduated from a great university like Harvard, rather than a school that has a poor reputation. I myself, and the other guys in my cohort did not leave negative reviews for that very reason. Not so much now, since I am more established in my career at this point. I am sure there are some graduates from Sabio who would be willing now to leave reviews of their experience here. Even so, I am actually surprised by how Sabio has managed to have so few negative ratings for their company. If you are reading this review, I am sure you are vetting various bootcamps and weighing the pros and cons for each. Like you, I was weighing my options, and cost was a significant factor. There were bootcamps that were literally twice the amount I would pay at Sabio and my mentality was that, since I'm a quick learner, I would get by without going to a top tier BootCamp. This is not to say that you won't get a job after attending Sabio, but I would recommend to anyone serious about getting into tech to go for bootcamps with income share agreements. Yes, I know, it is always more expensive, but trust me, the amount of time you lose from job searching for months as a fallout of attending a subpar BootCamp is way more expensive. The return on investment trumps any amount of additional money you will pay. The main theme of the BootCamp is fake it till you make it, even if it means lying, as mentioned in the other review posted here. So let's get into the fun stuff of reasons you should think twice, before enrolling here: 1.) Customer Service Customer service... Once you enroll in this program, the instructors will be impatient, curse in frustration, and be rude. They will ask you aggressive rhetorical questions. They will move you to the side to have one on one talks (which aren't necessarily bad but you get the point). Most of the interactions will be unfair and one-sided, meaning they are right and you are wrong. If you don't agree, then, of course, you're wrong, after all, they know how to code, and you don't. I would say you most likely will not have a pleasant experience interacting with the instructors unless you are at least above the 50th percentile of your cohort in coding skills and knowledge. The instructors are not nice and they will yell at you. You will feel the low caliber of service, and how "not-premium" the BootCamp feels. Anyone who leaves an honest review will say the same. 2.) Quality Quality... The main theme throughout the BootCamp will be, don't ask questions, you will get it in the end... This is a true statement. Oftentimes, people who start out coding go on all different tangents and lose focus on what matters. However on the flip side... it also tends to serve as a convenient cover-up for the lack of depth in knowledge the instructors have. Looking back, I could tell that the instructors were able to help you get stuck, but they did not really have a strong foundational knowledge of the technologies. The BootCamp is project based, but if you are looking to get a strong foundation in coding skills and principles of why and how things work the way they do, Sabio would not be the top choice. The quality of teaching is actually quite low, and you will be expected to figure things out on your own or from the members of your cohort. In other words, you shouldn't expect highly articulate instructors with great communication breaking down complex topics.. Afterall, the theme is fake it till you make it. Ethics Ethics... This would be the final nail in the coffin. It is non-existent. They tell you to lie. They tell you not to include the BootCamp on your resume and to actually say that you worked at a company instead. The project you worked on becomes your job, which gives you a great advantage in the job application process. The reason that Sabio is able to keep up with the competition is not because of the high caliber of the curriculum. Even if your knowledge may be substantially lacking, saying that you worked on a project for a company is bound to give you favor in the eyes of the interviewer. But do not expect a job. By the time you graduate your knowledge will still be substantially lacking, and it will be months and months before you land a job if you even manage to persevere that long. There are many who apply to this bootcamp and get weeded out. Then of those remaining, some do not graduate, and of those who graduate, unless you are a woman, you will have a difficult time finding a job. This is why I would always advocate for a BootCamp that has an income share agreement plan. Granted, those bootcamps may be more rigorous in weeding people out and also graduating, but then at least you know ahead of time you need to prepare more for a coding BootCamp rather than wasting months and months of unemployment when you're on your own after graduation. If you are reading this and apply this advice, you will be doing yourself a favor.

Reviewing anonymously for fear of retaliation from Sabio. They tell you to LIE to companies in order to get a job. Most of the "lectures" are pre-made videos of Gregorio or another instructor explaining a concept without showing how to apply the information.... Read More The time to interact with the instructors about questions is very limited. Most of the instructors are Sabio graduates and are still in the process of learning how to code at a level I would expect from an instructor. Don't waste your money, their free courses are worth the time, but you can get the same education through other free services such as khanacademy, codeacademy, and various free apps and games. I fully regret ever doing business with them and sincerely want to prevent others from making the same mistake.

I began with Sabio and was dismissed from Sabio in a matter of weeks. For starters, I'll state what is expected out of you so you have an understanding of that should you decide to proceed. Hours are from 9am-9pm Monday-Friday and 9am-3pm Saturday. You... Read More will have a stand up at 9:15 to state what you have accomplished, what you will do in the next 24 hours and what your blockers are (any issues stopping you from proceeding in your work). Then after this meeting(about 10minutes), you are released to watch prerecorded videos of Gregorio (co-founder) explaining a concept, you are instructed to code along while he types like its a race(fast) and you are trying to type along and understand the concepts being taught. You will be given an assessment about each week after you passed the pre work phase and if you do not pass 2 within a 30 day window, then you will be expelled. This sounds fair right? Well thats why they are so successful in being deceitful. I was dismissed from Sabio about 6 weeks in for failing 2 assessments, and I was one amongst many. Not only were the assignments being assigned far too soon for us to grasp the material, but for those that had technical issues, illnesses, or any reason that you would not have been up to speed with the material that was out of your control, you were still required to pass the assessment or you get dismissed. In my situation, I was given instructions to change my computer file paths in order to avoid future issues-as my instructor worded it. This only made my technical issues worse, but I wouldnt know that until later. I later "jumped on the "queue" (a phrase we use where we submit a question ticket and get a response in about 30-45 minutes for a zoom call to address a question) to fix the issue but the second instructor made it worse. I continued to have issues and reached out for help many times and when I expressed my concern that I would not be ready for the assessment because of the issue (which was caused by an instructor) I I was consistently told I was going to be okay. I was consistently told to get on the queue and my issue would be resolved, that I just need to ask more questions, however, I was still dismissed. They lacked empathy, they increasingly seemed more annoyed, pushing you off zoom calls and telling you to submit another question; they responded with frustration and passive aggression. Unfortunately Gregorio and Liliana are very charming- I say unfortunately because it can be very easy to want to trust them and take their word-that they care, they want you to succeed, but I am leaving feeling very disheartened realizing that my veterans benefits were taken advantage of and that I was not cautious enough. For Veterans : After learning more about others that experienced the same thing, I learned that Sabio takes advantage of veterans. They take their VETTEC, and then drop you and ask you if you'd like to use another educational benefit. It almost feels like they drained your credit card and then ask if you have another so they can drain that one too. There was another student before me that warned people against Sabio but I unfortunately got the notice too late. Please do not use your benefits at this school, once you are dropped, you cannot use VETTEC for another 18 months. Do more research, as you are doing now, and please do not make the same mistake I did and use your VETTEC or any other benefit somewhere else that is more creditable. There are many out there. It is not worth the housing allowance you will receive if you cant finish and then be unable to use the benefits for 18 months.

Sabio is intense, and it's not easy but totally worth the effort you put into it. That being said you will get out what you put in; focus on learning and mastering the material and you'll be fine! I went through the program in 2015 and landed and new,... Read More higher paid job in tech immediately after. In 2018, I went back to Sabio for the video production and social media course, and that was a good time too!

Exactly one year and three days ago, I started Sabio. It turned out to be one of the best decisions I’ve ever made. It was tough trying to absorb so much new material in so little time, but by week six, I felt much more comfortable.

I had studied the... Read More LSAT for about six months and had also considered an MBA. Once I heard about bootcamps, I started considering technology as well. I met Gregorio at a tech fair and asked him some questions. He gave me a PreWork voucher and told me to come to an info session. I slept on it for months. During the government shutdown of January 2019, I had to stay home for five weeks. After researching more on JDs, MBAs, and bootcamps during that time, I decided I’d switch careers by enrolling in Sabio.

I read, and read, and read the Sabio reviews on Course Report and SwitchUp, giving equal weight to good and bad reviews. I also listened to almost all, if not all, alumni podcast interviews. I read these months before enrolling, during the cohort, and still read them now and then.

Pleeease do your research and assess possible outcomes before enrolling in a bootcamp. Find the patterns. See where alumni are working now, if they had prior experience with technology, if they have a degree, if their degree is in STEM. It seemed to me that those with a STEM degree found jobs sooner, then people with a degree, and then those without a degree. This is not to say you need a degree as plenty of alumni have jobs without one. I hold a B.A. from UC Berkeley and found work after three months, but more on that later.

When I finally went to an info session, Gregorio and Liliana recommended I go on Codecademy and get familiar with JavaScrip, jQuery, HTML, and CSS. This was not a requirement for PreWork but recommended. It proved helpful for PreWork. Some people skipped Codecademy and struggled as a result. During PreWork, I learned how to use jQuery, how to build forms, and how to use Bootstrap, among other things. I had homework assignments, and an instructor would go over them each Saturday. At the end of PreWork, I took an assessment. If you do not pass, you can retake it in one month. The instructor always did their best to answer all questions we had. For cohort, all instructors are permanent instructors; they are not students or recent alumni that were hired after the cohort ended.

Once the cohort starts, you will be in a work environment the entire time. Every day there will be a standup meeting where you mention blockers, updates from yesterday, and what you will accomplish for that day. If you have questions, you are encouraged to ask the rest of your team first or browse the internet. Still stuck? That is when you reach out to the lead developers, the instructors. Most of the time, you will not receive a snippet of code as your answer. They will give suggestions on how to move forward. Only when you are absolutely stuck, you will get an instructor/lead to provide you with a code solution, as has been the case at my current job. Again, please keep in mind you will not be in a classroom setting and that you will be teaching yourself most of the time. It is up to you to rewatch videos, take notes from lectures, and put in the time to absorb the material. Bootcamps are not magic carpets. You have to be disciplined and put in those long, 12-hour days. For me, it was challenging to adapt to this style of learning. I had to learn a new way of learning, but it has been useful. If you want a career in technology, you will have to teach yourself new technologies continually.

You will likely spend the first four weeks learning ReactJS, then will begin learning C#, .Net, and SQL. If you have no prior experience, as I did, your world will likely flip upside down each time you have to learn something new. Just keep asking questions and stay disciplined. There are hardly any lectures, and while I wish there were more at the beginning, I’m glad there weren’t many now. Chances are you will not learn much watching lectures or videos. Most of the learning will probably start when you start coding and implementing what you learn in the lectures and videos.

By week six, you will have learned about most of the technologies you need to build the project that you will start working on during the cohort. An entrepreneur will come in and share their vision of the project. Developers can ask any questions they have. Some entrepreneurs will be on campus every weekend, and others you will only see when they present their vision to you, when the project is halfway done, and on demo day. Each developer will have user stories/tickets/cards (tasks) assigned to them. Once they finish their task, they will check in with their project lead to see what task they will take on next. This project will go live a few weeks before the cohort ends, and the entrepreneur will be able to use it. You are building a project that will have users.

In the last two weeks in the cohort, we focused on personal projects and interview prep. For the personal project, we learned Redux, how to incorporate a 3rd-Party API, and worked on a web scraper. We received plenty of interview questions for React, Redux, C#, and SQL, likely over 100 total questions. I did use these to study for interviews, but I also used other questions I found online. The instructors will revise 2-3 drafts of your resume to help you be a competitive applicant.

The job search was tough. I sent 1500+ applications. Get ready for technical trivia, sometimes up to 25 minutes of it. I went through several phone screenings, eventually made it to manager screenings often, and interviewed on-site with three different employers before I finally received an offer.

Income is probably the main factor at play for those of you reading this. Here’s my data: Before Sabio: ~50K | After Sabio: 70K+. Sometimes I still glance around the office as I work and think about how surreal it is. Yes, I worked hard, yes, you are ready to work after Sabio (though you will still have much to learn) but remember someone has to hire you. Keep working until that happens.

As I looked for work, I reached out to alumni (that I did not know) and instructors for advice through messages and phone calls. They always answered my questions, and some alumni even checked up on me several months later. It’s nice to know that I can always reach out to the Sabio community if I need to do so. Some cohort peers, you will never hear from again, others, you will remain in touch with long after finishing the program.

For those on the fence regarding enrolling in the program: I can’t recommend or not recommend it simply because I believe you should seek information and decide for yourself. It’s a risk and can be costly, but if you are willing to accept the risk, believe in yourself, and are in it for the long run, this is a good program for you. Would I do it again? Absolutely.

I don't have a base line for code bootcamps, as this is the only one I've been to. So feel free to continue your research about coding bootcamps.

I guess I'll tell my quick story as a snapshot of progression from the beginning and the end.
In my cohort,... Read More we focused on the coding skills and tools for web development. Each of us had to have an elementary understanding of html, css, and javascript before we could start. At this point and time, I could barely produce a couple of words on the DOM with my local machine. So you could say I was an absolute beginner.

At the end of the bootcamp, I have at least 700+ hours of React and JS experience. Which still makes a person very, very junior, but at this point and time I was able to create web pages, UI components on the fly. The only critique I would have is I wished we spent time early in the program working on some algorithms. We kind of did more at the end, but this boot camp placed more emphasis on creating content with React. This class also spent a bit of time with learning and the git process. Basically enough to understand a flow of git.

The one outstanding point is this company will help you get a job position. They helped me, and I appreciate it.

I would recommend this place if a person wants to learn web development. I would continue researching other camps if a person wants to learn UNITY or data science.

I finished my Cohort in Feb 2020, and waited until now to write my review because I wanted to let the dust settle and to be clear about my opinion before penning a review.

Bottom Line Up Front: Sabio gave me the confidence in my skills set to bill what... Read More I am worth, and I have never felt so supported by leadership in support of my goals, ever.

Sabio is not easy, but it is made exponentially easier if you have a background (even a slim one) in development. When I started Sabio I was finishing up a year long internship in development. I knew that I wanted to stay in the workforce instead of going back to school but I didn't have the confidence in my code or my knowledge to competitively apply for developer jobs. Sabio fixed that. While I believe that Sabio's curriculum is excellent and well worth the program, the best benefit is the relationships. The leadership at Sabio wants you to succeed. Having come from other for profit education experiences, I was skeptical about the job search portion of the program. I had heard the pitches before from for profit schools, and seen them not deliver. But Sabio changed my mind. My salary is now 2.5 times what is was before Sabio. The Icing on the cake is that I can still message the CEO and CTO with questions like "How much salary should I be asking for?", "Am I really worth that?" and "Is my code actually good enough to get though the white-boarding at X, Y or Z company?" and they love it.

That said, you get out of Sabio what you put into Sabio. If you're coding 12 hours a day, asking questions, taking code-review critique, and studying your butt off, Sabio can change your life. If your want to do the minimum, you'll get the minimum. So before you start Sabio, make sure your hungry to learn, and willing to hustle. When you do that, the program that Gregorio and Liliana have built will change your life.

If you really feel like making a change in your life and thatyou want to get commited to make it work come to Sabio. Liliana and Gregorio are really nice and they are always willing to help and to listen to you, sometimes you are going to feel that this... Read More is really hard for you and if you really make the right choice , but I can assure you that You did and it is only a matter to be perseverant and open to learn. It is really fast passed but you really get to learn a lot of things. This is amazing , each day you have new challenges to overcome !

Just completed my cohort at Sabio this month and I must say that I have no regrets. I was hesitant at first but glad I took the leap. The coding boot camp is definitely challenging but you are given all the tools necessary to be successful in the boot... Read More camp and in the work field once you graduate.