Turing School of Software and Design

I graduated from Turing some time ago, so it is likely that some portions of my review will be out of date but hopefully still helpful.

First the good. As a whole, I was pleased with my experience at Turing. I went from being very technologically experienced... Read More to being a reasonably solid Ruby on Rails dev who got a job in San Francisco and now makes a reasonable living doing it. The course is rigorous and intense, with little time for anything else. Most of the instructors were extremely helpful, genuinely want to see students succeed, and have a passion for education. You are likely to become very close with your classmates as you will all be going through this difficult (and somewhat traumatic) experience together.

Where Turing could improve: As I mentioned above, many of the shortfalls of the program when I attended seem to be addressed, but if it happened once it can happen again.

- My fourth module was severely lacking in quality JS experience. One of my suggestions upon leaving was that they really needed to at least generally introduce students to a front-end framework. That's been done now, but I was disappointed that the fourth module didn't teach super relevant skills.

- As mentioned above, some of the instructors are great, but some aren't so great. Some were junior coders with no industry experience and some had kind of checked out. You really need 100% quality instructors to be successful.

- There are a lot of junior devs out there, way more than there are junior jobs, mostly due to the success of bootcamps. Many of the coders graduating from other bootcamps, are not of the highest quality. As a result, many employers want to weed out bootcamp grads. One of the ways they do this is with data algorithms and sorting questions which Turing doesn't really prepare you for.

- Many people took out loans or moved to Denver specifically for the program, undertaking significant risk. Sometimes it felt like the founder didn't really appreciate this fact and was more interested in accomplishing his social justice crusade even if it meant essentially hanging some people out to dry who put their faith in him.

Despite these ways Turing can improve, like I mentioned, I got a job and it is in large part due to Turing, so overall experience was positive.

I joined Turing because I knew I wanted to get into coding and I didn't feel like a 12 week program would be enough. Turing is one of the longest programs in the country, 7 months. It also is very challenging and instructors believe in you but will not... Read More pass you along if they don't think you're ready for the next level. I loved the program, it's non-profit mindset and the job opportunities they came with it. I was hired for a job 10 days after graduating and found that most of my classmates who job hunted aggressively were able to get a job quickly within the first three months. I felt very prepared in the real world with the skills I had learned at Turing.

This program requires a huge amount of commitment (both time and mental energy) but it's entirely worth it. I received a great job offer on the last day of class and I felt well prepared by Turing to complete my work assignments. The only downside isn't... Read More Turing's fault at all but being located in Denver means an incredibly competitive job market for junior devs and if you want a job you'll have to be comfortable putting yourself out there (meetups, networking, making connections any way you can really).

I seriously doubt there is a better education of it's kind out there.

I worked in the trades and had no real good way to get into a new career with our going back to school but was not happy about the idea of another 4 years of schooling. I was very lucky... Read More to find Turing. I started with zero knowledge of computers, and and finished with a very solid understanding of programming and development and got a really great job as a full stack agile software developer immediately after graduation.

The pace was insane. It was too fast for me and I repeated 2 modules but I still wouldn't have gone anywhere else. They are not looking to just let anyone in and graduate. They hold a very high standard of education and it transformed me into someone ready for the work force. The curriculum is top notch, and the instructors care very much about the students. The hidden gem of Turing is the other students you'll be with. Turing has a way of finding great people to admit so everyone is always helping each other which got me through multiple jams during late night sessions studying and finishing projects. The incredible pace was matched by the resources and support.

Jeff Casimir has a very strong passion for helping people. There was a bit of social education which wasn't what I came for but I admire their passion for helping disadvantaged people and the local community.

Seriously, it's the only place to go.

Turing is tough, very tough. It is not easy to devote 7 months of your life coding and coding only. But if you want easy then pick another school and learn a minimal amount in comparison.

Pros:
Great workspace with people of all levels around to collaborate... Read More with
lengthy, but you learn the most
great teachers who genuinely want you to succeed.

Cons:
Some of the curriculum does not focus on Coding, but being a "better" person, useful if you lived under a rock, but for those of us who didn't, lets get back to the code.
class sizes are no longer super intimate. 2 teachers, 1 TA, and 31 students
they market "we can make anyone a developer," yes they can but if you have 0 background plan for an extra mod.(not a big deal, but plan accordingly)

Before Turing, I studied computer engineering and worked at a satellite dish company writing firmware for various parts of our systems.
For fun, I had hacked together a small web project and put it online for friends to try.
I decided to make a jump from... Read More hardware to software and my sister (who studied computer science) found this program and attended the cohort before me.

The students ranged from people with no experience coding to people who studied computer science. Even with this wide range of students, the curriculum was still able to satisfy the needs of the experienced while still catering to those who were learning something brand new. This also allowed more experienced developers, like myself, to work on our soft-skills and help others out with their course-work, or focus on new material that we hadn't seen before. The instructors had a more hands-off approach with the people who had coded before but they were always available during office hours.

When I joined Turing, the course was for full-stack development. It is pretty daunting to stick everything from dev-ops, Ruby, Rails, HTML, CSS, Javascript, programming ideologies, algorithms, etc. into 6 months. We obviously weren't going to come out pros in that time, but that's not the goal. The goal was for students that come out of Turing to have the tools and experience needed to learn more and find better ways to solve problems as a software developer.

The projects and lessons started out as individual work and moved towards group oriented tasks. This was extremely valuable as software developers very often work in groups and on teams out in the real world. Turing made a heavy emphasis sharing what things were like in the real world by bringing in well known speakers who could share their experiences working in the tech industry and as developers themselves.

Halfway through Turing we began thinking about our plans for after the program. We spent time learning about the culture of different companies, preparing our resumes, and networking with others in the startup/tech scene local to the program. The instructors have a wide reach and attend many conferences and are very good at networking. They used their connections to help us find jobs and offer many warm introductions. After that, of course, it was up to ourselves.

After this program I went on to be a founder of a startup that went through Techstars NYC-2014.
Without Turing, I don't think I would have had the confidence to be the solo developer on our team working on our entire platform for the first year.

Like many things, the programs that Turing offers are what you make of it. If you decide to put in the work, you will find ways to fail (even as an experienced developer - this is a good thing) and ways to succeed (even if you're brand new to coding).

I attended the Turing School of Software and Design's Back-End Engineering program in August 2016. I first heard about the program from my brother who completed the G-School program a few years prior and began new career as a result. I didn't attend college,... Read More and before coming to Turing I was in and out of retail service and management jobs. I spent most of my adult life jumping in and out of community college, went through a program to became a paralegal, and never really settled down into any role. In five years I had changed jobs three time, moving from a waiter and bartender at a local restaurant in Arizona to the General Manager of a national fast food chain.

Cue 2016. I turned 31 at the beginning of the year, my seven year relationship dissolves, and I quit the best job I had ever had. I was in a rut and I didn't know what to do with myself. Finally, in May, my brother convinces me that I need to pack up, and go to the Turing School. The application process took me a while. At one step they ask that the prospective student make a video of themselves as an introduction, and while it ends up being a simple process, recording yourself on video and sending to someone you've never met, was, for me, a daunting task. Nonetheless, I sucked it up and finished it. The final step in the process is a live logic quiz with a Turing instructor which occurred sometime later, I knocked it out of the park and was told less than two days later that I had been accepted into the program.

The program is rigorous. You will study and work for 60+ hours per week every week for seven months. You will get a well deserved break every six weeks, but there is still study to do even then. This is an immersive program, throughout which you are kept not at the edge of the cliff, but sort of dangling over the cliff on a fishing line, thinking you're going to fall the entire time. It is worth it. You will get support when you need it, and you will be given the opportunity to not only learn the curriculum but study toward segments of the industry you are interested in. The program is deigned to give its students the chance to branch out into other areas of interest as part of the program. I would suggest anyone that joins the program do exactly this.

My biggest takeaway from the program would something I didn't realize until I started working. My first job out of the program is a remote gig for an email company working in a language I didn't touch in school. The program prepared me for work in the field in such a way that I felt confident working in a a language I hadn't used on day one. While you are going through the program, sometimes it feels like the lessons are to short and too broad, and they don't properly prepare you for the projects you will be building throughout your studies. In hindsight however, it became very clear to me that this teaching style gave me the confidence and ability to tackle any problem I come across regardless of my previous knowledge.

If you trust the program and work your tail off, you will be successful.

If you haven't yet familiarized yourself with NESTA, you should. The point of the organization was to set standards for coding bootcamps that the students may be protected. While bootcamps weren't required to participate, Turing volunteered. They had... Read More 1 year to comply to a public audit and failed to do so. Turing's founder, Jeff, later published their own "audit" in order to "maintain transparency." Their internal "audit", however, hand-picked (and intentionally failed to contact those who had a poor experience) less than 70% of their total students, with a few red herrings amidst in order to show that their placement rates are much higher than they actually are.

Placement rates are also a bit of a misnomer in judging a camps success as you must graduate to even participate in the statistic. Alarmingly, Turing boasts a graduation rate of only 71% as stated by the Internation Business Times. Even that may be high based on what I personally witness and heard there in the basement.

Jeff personally stated that it was his mission to "lower graduation rates" as he feels that a more difficult program makes it that much more prestigious. However, this essentially means you're graded on a curve, so unless you're in the top 50% (and students here are both amazing and bright - easily the best part of the experience) you may be out of luck out of the gate.

They say you can enter without any prior programming knowledge, but in all reality the majority of students possess multiple years of programming experience so it's up to you to catch up while you're putting in the 80 hour weeks. While not impossible, it's made even more difficult with Turing's indoctrination days. 20% of your scheduled time here won't even be focused on coding at all, but instead listening to Jeff and others read highly controversial material that you either agree with or get singled out for "opportunities for improvement..." Seldom, if ever, were any contructive dialogues fostered. Rather, you accept Jeff's opinions as truth or you'll be forced out.

Also, the teacher to student ratio at Turing is the worst of any bootcamp of comparable length or less. Despite its "non-profit" claims, they are likely making significantly higher returns than their counterparts. This is due to overbooking of cohorts, relying on students to teach one another rather than be instructed, and the opaque statistics of those that repeat. *Spoiler Alert* an extremely significant portion of students repeat and do so at cost, meaning the 17,500 turns into the same 22,000 you'd pay for a superior program - gSchool.

A woman that repeated Turing's first module twice, but wasn't receiving support, is now excelling at gSchool and on pace to graduate this year.

In short, Jeff may be a smooth talker, but he's a self-described sociopath. I would recommend having an in-depth conversation with him personally before even considering attendance. He's more than happy to take your money, but if you'd like to have an actual conversation there won't be time.

And lastly, their governing body, the Department of Private Occupational Schools, is less than helpful if appealed to. They will take just long enough with their "investigation" that the statute of limitations to file a discrimination complaint will lapse and you will have successfully spent a significant sum in order to line Jeff's pockets.

Not to be entirely negative, the students and community are truly incredible (though the same can be said of every bootcamp I've visited). Most of the staff are solid individuals, but I don't believe they have enough say in how the school is run. It's all too clear that it's Jeff's way or the highway. Despite his former claim of superiority over gSchool based on not hiring their own immediate graduates, there are several on staff now.

You will learn quite a bit, but on you're on your own for the most part. The biggest take-away is that there's no safety net. You are at the mercy of a monster. Many will be fine, but think of your future and carefully examine what you hear. The "truth" is subjective, so enter at your own risk.

---updated Updated on 12/12/2016:---
It’s been a bit over a year at this point since I attended Turing, but I still regularly keep in touch with many of the people I spent those dark months with. Some suggested I just leave well enough alone and others pointed out that as a cult works - with one negative review, a dozen or so fabricated ones will arise letting the world know just how delicious the Kool-Aid is. Still, others may suggest that I’m “indefatigable” - a word used by a woman I’ve never met in my life when Jeff lit the fire in their internal Slack channel to smear my name and alter the story of how I left. I thought it funny as I can’t imagine she’s had ten thousand dollars stolen from her in her lifetime, but I could be wrong. If it were so, is indefatigable the right word? Maybe bitter… I’ll give you bitter, but “indefatigable” has such a ring to it. Although it is a bit rude; I’m not sure it coincides with Turing’s mission of “inclusion.” 


After some internal debate, what made me decide to write was the fact that just about every week on LinkedIn I’m viewed by either a current Turing student or a member of their community. Possibly just out of curiosity: “Who’s this monster that somehow made it to Turing and then said mean things about Jeff!?” Others perhaps to read an article that I authored: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/social-justice-terrorism-drew-conly?trk=prof-post detailing how Jeff essentially stole money from me under the guise of an education and with the age-old ‘bait and switch.’ Apparently the article made it at least to one of his “gear-ups” under the false description of dialogue. It was inaccurately presented without any defense on the side he chose to attack, which fits perfectly within his indoctrination methods. They were told if they ‘found it boring’ they could go on to another activity. I suppose Jeff has stolen enough money through his con that it’s become downright ‘boring’ for him now… 


If you’d like to try his con, the steps to follow weren’t extraordinarily difficult to follow at least. You see, like any con - you need an angle; Turing’s? Particularly clever since you can’t beat it. Artificially introduce 3 categories of humans: Victim, Ally, Oppressor. If you make it into the cult, you’re placed into either the victim or ally category by virtue of their approval. The victim category is any and all marginalized folks specifically within the tech community and any other would-be recipients of micro aggressions. The ally category is, of course, a white person that realizes you can’t just stand on the sidelines. You blindly accept all claims that the evil whites are the oppressors (despite likely being white and possibly even having been oppressed yourself). And you must - this part is key - agree with all ‘anecdotal proof’ presented by Turing that slights and mean words significantly affect every victim on the planet despite evidence to the contrary. *side note - if you don’t know what a micro aggression is (spoiler alert - made up word by the alt-left to further ingrain division and render an individual in the oppressor category defenseless against baseless accusations) you may want to skip Turing altogether. It is a trigger-warning, safe-space haven. I hear they don’t allow meat at their BBQ’s for fear of offending vegans (seriously though).

 In any case. Provided your social, economic, and political views mirror those of Jeff Cashmore’s for at least the duration you attend the program, you’re savvy. You stay in your respective victim or ally construct. Unfortunately, this can’t be done quietly; a mere head nod simply won’t suffice - Jeff Cashmore, the dictatorial cult leader, demands compliance. Perhaps it’s in the form of some Slack chatter checking someone’s privilege (berating someone who’s at least white so they can’t claim discrimination). Perhaps it will be as a rebuttal to a brutally honest, albeit trigger-warning-indiscriminate review. Or perhaps it will be to enlist the next cohort of alt-left drones that (a lot. Not 90%, but probably a solid 60%+) become damn decent software developers and thus elevate to another level of influence within society - that we may all be for censorship, safe spaces, and checking privilege Amen. Or perhaps there will be a wildcard request - but what the leader wants, the leader gets - lest you be excommunicated, shunned, and …. you guessed it - thrown into the ‘oppressor’ category.

The beauty of this con is as follows: The con artist (Jeff Cashmore) gets to pretend that he’s doing right by the world (however left that may be). He remains insulated by dozens, if not hundreds of his followers, as an ‘ally’ - nay - savior - while any dissension among the ranks is met with potentially life-altering ‘punishment,’ which is completely “justified,” as the recipient will have been labeled an ‘oppressor’ (no punishment is too severe for an ‘oppressor’). Righteous. Where do I sign? Looks like it’s a bit steeper than when I attended, but for the low, low price of 25-30k (*plus living expenses, rent, food, car payment, and all other income related items foregone during the better part of a year*) it now includes a safe-space room that’s been allocated!

But why so much; you may be asking yourself; when the supposed same was accomplished for 17,500 when they initially started out. Well, being that they’re a “non-profit,” the extra cash will of course go to growth. That is, of course, after Cashmore’s ~ $200,000 annual salary is covered. (Based on collective math and the tax returns that they must legally make public). And with attrition up, both through their selective weeding out (roundin’ up the white fellas for hurtin’ feelins’ an’ such) and sheer frustration on the parts of those that thought they were signing up for a software development program instead of world-view reassignment, the bottom line need-be considered. Yes, yes - even in a non-profit that’s really here for the betterment of all.  


Here’s the deal. Since it’s quite apparent that folks from Turing & the community are still interested in viewing my profile, bashing me on Slack, and somehow thinking that Jeff’s not a complete pos, here’s some irrefutable facts that I’d happily back up with evidence: 
    - It’s been over a year since my dispute with Turing and I have NEVER been given specific complaints or accusers, the only explanation being that I was a ‘cultural leader.’ (I retain all related communication exchanges)
    - At one point it was Jeff’s mission to increase the failure/dropout rate of Turing (some 2 dozen members of my cohort as well as multiple bootcamp owners/leaders in the greater Denver area can attest to that fact)
    - Turing has sent numerous Nondisclosure Agreements to individuals they’ve excommunicated hoping to prevent litigation (I retain copies of such, though I was not offered one as Jeff had already stolen my money & gotten away with it)
    - Multiple instances of students & alumni being kicked off of internal communication tools for having a different opinion than Jeff and his false narrative (Turing may say being offensive, but     as the screenshots would show that’s not the case. And censorship is censorship)
    - Jeff has attributed his desire to get into the ‘bootcamp’ business (make no mind it’s a business) to there being, “too many white dudes in tech” (Only an issue for the rational humans that realize racism goes both ways I know… )


    - Turing as a software development school outsources the design and upkeep of their own website (Right there at the bottom right - there’s also the hard-coded, wildly inaccurate placement statistics on the front page. Jeff has disputed this in the past by provided an “audit,” which was performed “internally” (code-word for made up) What!? I can literally name off the top of my head enough individuals that left the program willingly or otherwise to make these statistics fail to be true) Also, can I let the IRS know that I’ll “audit myself” if such a time ever comes… ?  
    - Right on their website, between the pictures and background video I can point out multiple individuals that were either kicked out or quit Turing based directly on Jeff’s inability         to foster a dialogue (I will not list names without expressed consent, but it would be impossible for Jeff to even challenge this point)
    - The Department of Private Occupational Schools, in my case at least, took long enough with their “investigation” that the statute of limitations for a discrimination complaint had lapsed leaving me without a course of action with the exception of hiring an attorney, which is difficult when you’ve just been robbed (date stamps from my initial complaint to their final decision)
    - The literature (propaganda) provided in their weekly indoctrination sessions are severely biased & often inaccurate. They refuse to update or acknowledge academically             reviewed articles that don’t fit their narrative (again between email exchange and screenshots I provided plenty of dialogue to be had, but my input was unceremoniously dismissed)
    - Jeff creates an environment that passive aggressively harasses anyone he deems an ‘oppressor,’ which he does so on occasion as arbitrarily as you’d choose your outfit in the         morning. (Again, I won’t ‘put anyone on blast,’ but I am happy to make introductions for a potential attendee to no less than 20 individuals that would give you an honest review. Not this fictional garbage on course report that’s more or less required if Turing is going to help you find a job. Again - Jeff directly disputes this, my evidence here isn’t quite as strong, but multiple individuals have confirmed to me that the positive reviews are incentivized) 
    - Based solely on a claim, with literally zero evidence, Jeff accused a member of Turing (at the time) of drugging another student. It didn’t happen and that’s been cleared up now, but this is how quickly the school will overreact if someone in a “protected class” tells Jeff to “check someone’s privilege” (berate the white guy). 
    - Upon reading previous reviews, slack screenshots, my own correspondence with Jeff & the school it's painfully evident that Jeff is elusive when it comes to dialogue. If you're white and claim you're being attacked, it's because you're "uncomfortable having your privilege checked." If you wanted to spend $20k on learning software development and choose not to attend a gear-up it's "because it made you uncomfortable (they're supposed to be after all - when is indoctrination a comfortable process?)". If you don't like his choice of articles (from the late 80's or 3 decades ago for those who are counting) it's because you "don't appreciate muliculturalism" (even if you present more compelling evidence: http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/09/the-rise-of-victimhood-culture/404794/) And on and on the story goes. If your opinion or position coincides with his narrative and that of the victimhood culture we've been cursed with, you will be in his favor. If you dissent... you will pay dearly. (Again, dozens of stories - YOU are paying them, but if you don't join the cult side of the school you simply cannot be successful there. After I'd been handed down my punishment and made it clear that I would not comply, all instructors became too busy to help. Even after presenting my case and Jeff agreed that there was not an accusation, but rather he thought of me as a 'cultural leader' he wouldn't even apologize for lying. Or the amount of stress that was incurred. Or any of it. Why would he need to? I am -unfortunatelyt- white after all) And as a preemptive dismassal of what will be an extremely weak argument - Jeff claimed that that the duress I was arbitrarily placed under was akin to the duress caused by micro agressions, which validates his cult jargon. Nonsense. Jeff abused his power & authority to discriminate and oppress based on my race and my gender. He argues that because I am white and male that discrimination/oppression is not possible. He is wrong. 


The aura of condescension can be felt dripping from the walls of the dungeon that is Turing. The school is lead by someone who looks like a smug, self-righteous Guy Fieri that reduces everyone that walks through the door to a gender, a color, and a sexual identity. All of this he accomplishes “as an ally” so it’s really for your own betterment and there isn’t an option (y’know, like learning software development which you paid Jeff around 20K to teach you…). For those who belong to a marginalized class, but choose not to play the victim…  you’ll somehow end up in a surprise 4th category - “Ally of oppressor” - take that curveball mf!!

Rooms inside of Turing are filled either with whispers for fear the fuhrer overhears and disagrees or by boorish droll which is praised at Turing. Liberal elitists patting themselves on the back for eating vegan or Paleo, training for a half-marathon, doing crossfit, or ‘totally understanding and empathizing with the struggle of another.’ (I realize none of these things read poorly - nor are they. It’s when they’re obviously so disingenuous and contrived that they illicit the eye rolls and tongue-in-cheek congratulations that are required to remain an ‘ally’)


Y’know it’s funny. On one hand, we have a privileged, wealthy white male that pays himself closer to a quarter of a million dollars a year than not. And in the other we have a socioeconomically challenged white male that’s never taken a handout nor been offered one. Could hardly rub two nickels together when he opted to change careers and better himself. Little did he know that there was “a greater opportunity to learn” - the long con. Watching a wealthy scumbag steal his money right from under his nose. And then he gets made out to be the demon. And Jeff Cashmore gets to play Robin Hood. The irony is suffocating. 


If you’ve struggled in your life: lost friends or family members, grew up poor or impoverished, if you’ve seen someone take their own life, struggled with depression, gone through the battle against cancer or some other disease whether personally or through osmosis, if you’ve worked 12 hour days 7 days a week, if you’ve had a hard time making ends meet, slept in your car, or if you’ve otherwise had what a rational human being would NOT describe as a privileged life, then you better pray to whichever God you pray to that you’re not white. Or none of it will matter to Jeff Cashmore and the Turing community. 


Jeff’s cult has a boilerplate list of definitions and if you’re white, you’re privileged. Period. And whatever race, gender, or sexual preference you are, at Turing - that’s ALL you are. For the con to work you have to fit into a category and there are just 3. Your initial placement into the category is based solely on race, gender, and/or sexual preference. End of story.  


Jeff doesn’t take the time to get to know people prior to their acceptance, attendance, etc. As long as your check clears and you can solve a few LSAT games, you’re in. When I got to “face my accusations (again - none specific, it was actually just an informative meeting of the punishment I’d be receiving without any actual accusations mentioned or evidence of any wrong doing at all) I hadn’t actually spoken with Jeff for more than 5 minutes personally. But somehow, he’d decided that the ‘accusations’ were enough and that I’d be disciplined accordingly (oops - I meant ‘opportunity to learn’ instead of discipline. If you’ve seen Clockwork Orange you’d understand). Only, there never were any accusations. There weren’t any accusers. There was Jeff. And there was Jeff’s narrative. And there was Jeff’s con. 



Jeff, you’re a thief. The right thing to do would be to offer back the “tuition” you stole from me and anyone else you’ve pulled this scam with.

Turing is HARD. I thought I knew what hard was when I started this program and I couldn't have been more wrong. Turing is one of, if not THE, hardest things you'll do in your life.

That said, Turing is also the best decision I've ever made. I've spent... Read More my entire career around technical teams, always longing for more and feeling like I hadn't answered the question of what I wanted to be when I grew up. I found coding on my own and tried (rather unsuccessfully) to learn on my own. I waffled for a while on the choice to attend Turing, mostly because I was scared of giving up a nice income to do something totally different. I'm generally a risk-averse individual, so this was a huge leap of faith for me.

Like other reviews have said, this is a program for self-starters. It's not a wrapper in which you pay a "school" that's really just you renting out space to teach yourself, but it's not a hand-holding experience either. Turing teaches you how to learn and how to be a decent human and software development is merely the means for getting there. You will learn how to code and you will learn about yourself, and that includes things that you don't really like about yourself but I can honestly say that I've grown more in the past 7 months than I have in my entire career (I am in my late 20s).

In my opinion, the curriculum is brilliantly laid out from start to finish and you can push yourself as far as you want to go. There's always more to learn in the world of software development and Turing both encourages you to make the most of this fact as well as prepares you for how to deal with it in the real world. I can't recommend this place enough.